From observation, lots of back country riders use flows, but I can't tell from a distance who's riding which, so no disadvantages or advantages there I would say. If people have to get in and out eg on a flat or if they are guests who fall , then the quicker they are the better.
If you fall in tree wells, get the easiest thing to get out of. If you're riding with me you need to be safe and fast enough not to hold people up, that's all. I like people who don't waste my time and money.
I would try both approaches and pick the one which works for you. After all it is free. You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. There is the odd super quick person getting into standard bindings pretty fast but for most 'normal' folk its way way more than 5 secs. Flows may take a while to set up but, once its done thats it.
Ski the Net with snowHeads. Interesting, I had a snowboard lesson Monday, ratchet bindings, my instructor wouldn't let me sit down to do them up. In pow they can be an back bottom when snow gets behind the back plate and your leg if you have had to unclip. With skiers they are fab as you are off the lift and are on the immediate go.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. SOP for boarders with a bunch of skiers is to be at the front for the first chair. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. You know it makes sense. Masque wrote: Modern flows are no worse to use and can be set up like ratchets.
Footbed canting? Not that I know of but I've been blanking flow at ispo for a couple of years. They finally stopped sending me their brochures now They do fit on ICS though, don't know why. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:.
Had two pairs of flows in 14 years Do em up while you are sliding away from the drag or on the drag - same goes fro the chair. Straight off the lift and down the mountain. I've been gone from for two or three years, but some things never change. Judge for yourself whether or not that's a valid reason to dismiss an innovative technology.
I no longer ride on Flow bindings; after 6 happy and active winters, my pair of M9 bindings started to feel their age. I have replaced them with similar GNU bindings with newer tech and I couldn't be happier. My only concern with rental bindings is that they be properly maintained, regardless of how you get in or out of them.
I suggest you take a look on the day and make a call according to your preference and the state of repair of the selection. Both my old Flow M9s and my newer GNU bindings were manageable in deep snow, because there are ratchet straps on the webbing which can be completely disconnected if required.
I had to fix one of the newer flow bindings today, they still suck, high back snapped in half, high back is only fixed on by 2 m3 tiny screws and an outdated pin and circlip which was always the fail point with flow. Best bindings on the market at the moment IMO are the Salomon hologram shadow fit. Because it's pretty easy to fit anything on ICS these days, presumably because Burton realized that they can't dictate what people want to use.
Nitro doesn't fit, Burton won't release the patent thing to them. Not all ride fit. Burton screwed themselves with 2 generations of ics, a lot of people got burned with the 1st ICS, myself included.
Flows are heavy, unresponsive and overly complex. This topic comes up prettymuch every year at and every year prettymuch the same discussion takes place, which is heavy on personal opinion. In the end, try whatever equipment you can and see what works for you. VoodooBob , if its just for saving a bit of time then don't bother.
If its for ease of entry and you don't go off-piste too much in deep pow then go for it. They're easier to get on but unless you're gonna slide off the chairlift and head straight down while buckling up then they're not worth it for what you sacrifice.
Also you can tell your skier mates you'll catch em up then fly past them with a board grab or some such trick! Oh good grief! The back can be completely unlocked, allowing it to swing backwards until it is almost completely horizontal. This creates a large open space that you can use to easily get your boots in and out of the bindings. Then you just have to close the high-back again over the back of your boot, and then lock it into place.
This is easy to do while standing up, making flow bindings an ideal fit for you if you want to strap in while on the move. Some newer flow bindings also have an additional system in which the strap lifts up as the high-back swings open; this makes it even easier to get your boot in and out. The biggest pro to flow bindings is how quick and easy it is to strap into them with their drawbridge-like high-backs that you can completely unlock.
With practice, you can even strap into your snowboard bindings right as you come down off of a ski lift, saving time better spent on the slopes! Because you can strap in your flow bindings while standing up, you do not have to sit down in the snow, allowing you to avoid getting the seat of your pants wet.
Another perk of flow bindings is that you only need to adjust the straps once, at the start of the day. After that, you will be set for the rest of the day, with no need to re-adjust, even if you take your boots in and out of the bindings multiple times throughout your trip. Flow bindings are meant to be more easily put on while standing up. However, this means that it is actually more difficult to strap into these snowboard bindings while sitting down — which is sometimes necessary if you are boarding on a particularly steep slope.
Additionally, you cannot independently adjust the amount of pressure on your toe and ankle on most flow bindings if you need to, because their straps are connected together. Another con to flow bindings is that they can make recovery difficult after a crash or fall. If you ride into a powdery snow bank, and there is snow jammed up against the high-back , you may not be able to open the high-back and get your boots out of the binding.
Also, if you end up falling and sliding down a hill on your back, you may accidentally trigger the unlocking mechanism for the flow bindings, which will cause the board to go flying off of your feet!
Strap bindings have two separate straps: an ankle strap higher up on the foot, and a toe strap lower down on the foot. Strap bindings also have a fixed high-back, which means that the back stays in one place, though you can somewhat adjust the angle of the high-back to either lean more forward or be more upright. This mainly depends on your comfort and the angle of the slope. In order to get in and out of your strap bindings, you need to undo both of the straps.
This will allow your boots to enter or exit the bindings easily. Most people just starting out with strap bindings may need to sit down in order to put them on or take them off. However, with practice, you can learn how to do so from a standing position instead, saving time.
The two independent straps of your bindings mean that you can adjust the pressure of each strap, which may be necessary if your ankle requires a different tightness than your toe. Flow Fuse Fusion. Flow Five Hybrid. Beginner - Softer more forgiving bindings for riders looking to build confidence and progress. Flow Alpha. Flow Five - Our Top Recommendation. Flow Fuse recommended for progressing beginner.
Great for anyone transitioning from a traditional binding, this style has a slightly softer flex overall, so is more popular with freestyle riders and beginners. Fusion — The team favourite, this single piece strap offer the best step in performance, but still has ratchets so for fine adjustment. These can be used to put the binding on like a traditional binding if the rider needs to. The strap automatically lifts up when you recline the Hiback, and it actively tightens again when you close the Hiback.
This system also reduces friction and creates more room so that getting in and out of your binding is incredibly fast and easy.
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